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Anyone talk with Dave recently? He isn't returning my calls; his site is now being redirected to his new business venture.
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Old 02-06-2017, 08:39 AM
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I wonder what will become of the Sterling?

Not that he has made any in the past few year to my knowledge, but knowing it is still being produced was something pretty cool about the car. Do we know how many he made in his time of ownership of the molds?

I wonder what will become of the molds if he sells it all off. I'd like to own the molds but not at the 120k price he was asking. By the time I get done making all the mods to my cars and making my molds, I will only lack the main body mold.

I don't see the Sterling kit car as a viable business as it was for the VW chassis, but I do appreciate the 70's throw back to the kit car era. With all the unfinished cars around, maybe just some updated parts is all that is needed. Producing the body and roof section would be a little pricey, and that's why I bought my most recent car #068. I got everything for less then I can build the body and roof for. The windshields on the other hand are the problem. I guess a minimum buy from the mfg would be necessary.

It will be interesting to see what happens from here. I'm grateful that he has kept it alive as long as he did. I hope the torch gets passed and not extinguished.
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Old 02-06-2017, 09:30 AM
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I have had no response to emails or phone messages for a few months...including this morning.

The main page goes directly to SDI Design now, but the web address remains as before. You can still get into his site using one of the slashes (/) such as Sterling Sports Cars fiberglass shop. Most everything is then again accessible...except the main page. To find the replacement parts page, you have to go directly to http://www.shop.sterlingsportscars.com, as the link from the other site no longer works. You can still log into your account there as well. It took some searching, but the Business Phone is still listed in "shop" as 412-704-5659...although no one answers but the machine.

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Old 02-06-2017, 01:49 PM
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I have had no response to emails or phone messages for a few months...including this morning.

The main page goes directly to SDI Design now, but the web address remains as before. You can still get into his site using one of the slashes (/) such as Sterling Sports Cars fiberglass shop. Most everything is then again accessible...except the main page. To find the replacement parts page, you have to go directly to http://www.shop.sterlingsportscars.com, as the link from the other site no longer works. You can still log into your account there as well. It took some searching, but the Business Phone is still listed in "shop" as 412-704-5659...although no one answers but the machine.
I thought he built more then just the Sterling. I think there was a couple of hot rods that they also did in the shop. I think Rick would know best.

Who lives the closets? Maybe a drive by is in order.
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Old 02-06-2017, 03:37 PM
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It was a hot rod shop that held the molds and pulled the parts for Dave. He had zero in-house inventory... he worked, literally, from a room in his home. All his parts were ordered on an as-needed basis. The hot rod shop wanted the Sterling parts gone since they were taking up room and not much was being done with them, which may have led, in part, to the closing of the business. If, indeed, that's what happened.

I'm 4 hours from Pittsburgh.. certainly not close enough for a drive-by. But there wouldn't be anything to see anyway...
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It was a hot rod shop that held the molds and pulled the parts for Dave. He had zero in-house inventory... he worked, literally, from a room in his home. All his parts were ordered on an as-needed basis. The hot rod shop wanted the Sterling parts gone since they were taking up room and not much was being done with them, which may have led, in part, to the closing of the business. If, indeed, that's what happened.

I'm 4 hours from Pittsburgh.. certainly not close enough for a drive-by. But there wouldn't be anything to see anyway...
OHHHH I thought he was the hot rod shop! I thought the Sterling was just another kit he offered in addition to the others. Figuring that the other kits were the main source of income and the Sterling was just cuz he didn't want to see them go away. Makes much more sense now.

So what was he selling for 120k? Just the molds and the website? I can't imagine he paid much for the molds when he got them.

I thought he had inventory of some parts, especially the windshields. I'm guessing the business was a loss most years. Heck, just paying to store the molds would be 4 to 6k a year.
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Old 02-06-2017, 06:19 PM
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He did have an "inventory" of windshields through Pilkington, where they were stored in two warehouses, one west coast, one east coast. Everything else was to order. To be fair, he did manage to remake almost all the molds to make everything as fresh as he could get them. His asking price was mainly for the R&D for his tube frames and the molds.

He did show me his year end spreadsheet one time... if it was accurate... and I don't have a reason to doubt it wasn't... I would be very happy with the yearly income. Let's just say it was a little above the median income of most.
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He did have an "inventory" of windshields through Pilkington, where they were stored in two warehouses, one west coast, one east coast. Everything else was to order. To be fair, he did manage to remake almost all the molds to make everything as fresh as he could get them. His asking price was mainly for the R&D for his tube frames and the molds.

He did show me his year end spreadsheet one time... if it was accurate... and I don't have a reason to doubt it wasn't... I would be very happy with the yearly income. Let's just say it was a little above the median income of most.
Its good to know the business did make money at one time, maybe there is hope someone will pick it up again. I guess just a fraction of parts and car buyers were vocal here on this site. I know he got a few thousand dollars of my money in the past couple of years.

If his mold are fresh and in good condition, that certainly makes them more desirable. It is just going to take the right buyer with the right resources already in place in my opinion. I can see someone who is already in business building cars adding this to their line of offerings. Just as I thought was already the case.

Do we know of any cars with the tube chassis that were purchased? Any of them active members here? I'd love to know more about them. I thought I had read all the builders journals here and don't recall any such cars. Could be guys building these cars separate themselves from us mostly VW guys. I know not all of the cars here are VW but I think most started out that way.

Regardless of what direction he takes, I wish him success. I'm grateful for all he has done to keep this car alive for as long as he did. Knowing parts were available made the car more interesting to me and made it seem less of a challenge to finish and more likely to actually be on the road someday. Unlike some of the other kit cars out there with their unobtainable parts, the Sterling stood out as still buildable by the average backyard mechanic / enthusiast. This website with it wealth of information, was also something that made the Sterling a desirable project kit car.
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Old 02-07-2017, 07:49 AM
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Sounds a familiar story, Tim Naylor of TEAC rescued the Eagle SS molds from a boat yard in 2005 and restored them to commercial quality and offered new kits as well as replacement parts for the 680+ that were made. development work was done on a MR2 based update in 2006/7 but in the end it was not viable and has disappeared.

Recently Poly Creations in Belgium have come up with new Nova (Stirling) and Eagle SS (Cimbria) molds but so far just a few panels ordered but no new cars have been ordered as the build price is too high compared to a normal car at bout 10,000 plus all the crap regulations and test required today.
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Old 02-07-2017, 08:09 AM
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I don't think anybody with a tube chassis is on here. I know he sold one to someone in Alaska, a couple to California and a few overseas. From the original design chassis that he had at Carlisle years ago it looked well made, and he had made a few design changes over the years to accomodate different engines and suspensions.

He'll be fine.. he's doing what he went to grad school for - industrial design and manufacturing. He's always been in that field, even with the Sterling as a side hobby. I did hear from him briefly last night via email.. it's not a done deal yet as the buyer backed out at the last moment after seeing there were few sales last year. He said he has another waiting.. we'll see...
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