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As most of you know, the national registry has cars listed by serial number for the most part. I had been talking with various persons about the numbers over the years, and was informed that when CCC Midwest opened, they received two or three of the original molds from California, which were the S and B molds (what that stood for is anyone's guess... and I intentionally did not reverse the letters ). Hence, midwest produced cars often had numbers like S069 or B90. How many cars that were actually produced at midwest is anyone's guess, and I can't take it for granted that those numbers were part of any production number in the run since I can't see Midwest producing more than 40 cars at most in the year it was in business.
Now, with that, along comes our newest member Jim with an oddball - GP 27. And, it's a Midwest car - the data plate confirms that. Until I get a photo confirmation of that data plate, I'm thinking it might be S0 instead of GP... if it's worn there might be some confusion, but taken at face value, that's how I have it listed on the registry. Does anyone from the west coast have any more information on the mold numbers by chance from talking with any of the past employees? This is where inside information from someone who worked at either company would certainly be welcomed!
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ON the "slothy" sterling I have there is no S or B and the numer 31 is molded UPSIDE down in the fiberglass door sill along with mid west componant cars. On the blue "mars 74" car it only has so 40 and glassed in right side up and no manufacturer label.

And If you haven't figured out by now I do have to name all my sterling just to keep it straight about which of the seven or eight I have hanging around!
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Well, Jim got me and good - he sent over a photo of the data plate and sure enough, it's got a GP prefix:
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You'll also notice that the plate is proud of the bodywork instead of flush, like most of the others. It begs the question of where did this come from? I remember reading somewhere that CCC midwest subbed out some of their glasswork to other manufacturers. And I think Bremen Industries was one of them. Does anyone else think it's a coincedence that the Sebring serial numbers are also three digit numbers for the most part?
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Were their any auxilliary locations for the serial number to be laid on the cars main body when it was created?

And heres a nice write for looking the history of a car up.

How to Trace the History of Your Classic Car

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Old 03-05-2010, 08:37 AM
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Nope, just on the driver sill. From what I've been told through various folks is that CCC was.... let's say lax... about keeping serial numbers in order. At least three or four molds for the body were made, as two of those had gone out to Midwest. At the moment there are a couple bodies out there with the identical serial number, so trying to find out what happened there is going to be near impossible!
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Well, Jim got me and good - he sent over a photo of the data plate and sure enough, it's got a GP prefix:
Attachment 674

You'll also notice that the plate is proud of the bodywork instead of flush, like most of the others. It begs the question of where did this come from? I remember reading somewhere that CCC midwest subbed out some of their glasswork to other manufacturers. And I think Bremen Industries was one of them. Does anyone else think it's a coincedence that the Sebring serial numbers are also three digit numbers for the most part?
Is there an id plate like this on my cimbria and where would it be located at
thanks dale
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Nope - Cimbria were apparently never numbered!
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was amore ltd just lazy or what
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Nope - Cimbria were apparently never numbered!


what is this tag then
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Looks like a VIN tag from whatever state it was originally from. The prefix "SCHD" probably stands for 'Special Construction (maybe Highway Department?)', though I certainly can't say for sure. I've never seen or heard of any Cimbria version that had a serial number attached to it.
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