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Old 08-21-2014, 11:02 PM
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Doesn't seem like much discussion is happening tonight so I thought I'd throw this out there for discussion.

I might go to the junk yard tomorrow and I was putting together a list of things to look for. One was the hydraulic system out of a convertible for lifting the canopy when a light flickered and I was wondering if the system used to lift those heavy tail gates on SUV's would work. I have no idea how the system works so I don't know whats involved in it but if it lifts that heavy rear door then lifting a fiberglass canopy would be a piece of cake for it to lift.

Is it a hydraulic system or electric and would it work in our cars, how compact is it???
I'll find out tomorrow whats involved in it but I thought I'd see what everyone else has to say about it.
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Old 08-21-2014, 11:50 PM
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Ive seen some for minivans. Depends on the model I suppose. Ive seen cable operated systems, and hydraulic.
Sorry not much help there.
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Old 08-21-2014, 11:57 PM
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Not much input going on here.
I guess everyone has gone to bed

I would think that the canopy being so lite compared to the SUV's tail gate it would lift the canopy in no time,plus I read some systems you can control the height
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Old 08-22-2014, 07:43 AM
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Never seen a hydraulic setup for a tailgate, Brett, other than the pneumatic rams usually attached. Total canopy weight with glass is somewhere around 200 pounds; I can't say that a lift gate is that much, but then, I've never had one off, either. Keep us posted.. could be interesting!
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Old 08-22-2014, 08:00 AM
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Our old Caravan used a combination of pneumatic self contained "gas spring" cylinders and a (mostly hidden) lever-type system to lift the powered rear gate. Since the gas spring cylinders were fully capable of lifting and holding the gate up by themselves, I don't think the power lift system had or needed all that much strength to "lift" the gate.
Seems like a combination like that could be used on a Sterling too - pneumatuic springs carrying most of the weight and light-duty hydraulics or other actuators to create the motion?
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One of the things that peaked my interest in this system is you can open the back door with the switch or you can open it manually. Don't know if all manufacturers have this setup. Something to look into. Seems that this would resolve some issues that some of you face when the battery goes dead and you have no power to the hydraulic pump to lift the canopy.
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Old 08-22-2014, 10:55 AM
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I have an electric lift on my Toyota Estima MPV rear door. As you say I can choose to lift via a switch or manually. I guess the key part to this system is the final closure and locking. Basically the lifting arm mechanism closes the door pretty much all the way, then a lock solenoid seems to take over and pull it tight the last 1 cm. itís this same solenoid which gets released when you open it manually.

So I guess to work on a Nova / Sterling this additional locking mechanism (probably two required, one each side) would have to be incorporated in addition to the lifting actuator.
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sounds very much like the Cadillac system for its trunk. That grab and pull closed feature is on their big cars.

From experience in driving my sterling around, having a positive locking system for the canopy should be a consideration while driving. My top was only held in place by the hinges, and some gas struts, and it was all over the place while driving. The nice thing about a cable operated system is it would give the installer more flexibility in the install location.
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Old 08-22-2014, 08:55 PM
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Came up empty today looking for one of these systems.

I'll keep looking and when I find one I'll post my findings
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I will try to remember to take pictures and get part numbers for what we install on the Sorrento. The are electric/air and can be manually lifted and lowered as well as electric. They have stop switches mounted on the tg that shut off the cylinders when fully closed. Not in my shop but I will go out to assembly repair to get pics.
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