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What about the pinto front end in the other topic? they use them in drag racing so theyve got to be solid too. Although the mustang 2 looks very nice. I dont see it being all that hard, albeit, its more than likely more than a week long mod. Probably would be faster with a buddy helping though.

I hadn't seen that post you'd made about the Pinto front end until after I'd posted this one. There's certainly nothing functionally wrong with the Pinto front. Thanks for that post.

The reason I'd go with the Mustang is because, in the Mustang, 100% of the components are part of that single, modular cross-member. It is a stand-alone assembly that includes 100% of the functional geometry. I like that.

With the Pinto front, it looks like the lower mount points come off one part of the chassis cage, and the top of the shock is attacked to another part, and the rack is attached to a third part...etc. You could certainly make custom mount points that all led back to a single custom cross-member which could be grafted onto the Bug front, etc. I like the Mustang front simply because this has already been done for us. I'd much rather graft in a single element rather than try to recreate a three dimensional cage. I guess I'm just lazy.

Functionally, the Pinto front would probably be every bit as good. From a fabrication standpoint, my concern is that it would be harder to pull off.
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You guys really need to keep up: Chassis

True, it's the entire chassis, but I'd imagine that they are going to start parting the front and rear suspension pieces at some point.

Or, for a true bolt-on piece that isn't so expensive (relatively speaking): Eyeball Engineering Double A Arm


sometimes it pays to lurk on other forums.....


By the way, Warren. Once I get the body pulled, you can look at my Mustang II front for measurements, etc. Plus, you can see my secret weapon for working in the garage by myself....

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Very nice!!! great find! it may be more expensive, but less hassle!

UMM where do the shocks go?

VERY COOL!
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Oh, SWEET!! See, I KNEW someone out there was working on these things!

Did I know that you had a Mustang II front?! Cool. I really need to get over to your shop. Let me fix my alternator, and then we'll just pick a day and make it happen.

Thanks for those links, Rick.

Do you have any idea how much they are selling those Mendola chassis for? On my initial glance, I didn't see anything printed. I'm thinking they have to be as (or more) expensive as Dave's...in which case I'd be tempted to pick up a whole chassis for Dave.

For that Eyeball Engineering front, do you know whether they made that to improve handling or travel? I couldn't tell from first glance. But I LOVE that they were clever enough to make it work as a bolt-on.
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The shocks, Yaughn, go where the solid pieces of raw tubing are placed. I don't know why the shocks weren't on for the photo op, unless that was a unit they were getting ready to ship, or you have to provide your own shocks. Warren, as far as I know they were built from a handling perspective. The Mendy chassis...never looked into the price. But, if their transaxles are $12-15K, I'd imagine the chassis is all that and more. But...it's considerably different than Dave's. It appears that they are retaining the Bug central tunnel and pans...which means that there must be a title or MCO along with it, which makes registration a whole lot easier. A phone call or email would tell the tale.
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I looked up mendeola transmissions before several years ago. The tranny alone started about 10K, so add the suspension, frame, and front end? call a loan officer!

But Ill tell ya, 3k or not, Id save up for this one! Its worth the handling improvements, and the overall value of the car.

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Old 08-02-2009, 09:22 PM
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The shocks, Yaughn, go where the solid pieces of raw tubing are placed. I don't know why the shocks weren't on for the photo op, unless that was a unit they were getting ready to ship, or you have to provide your own shocks. Warren, as far as I know they were built from a handling perspective. The Mendy chassis...never looked into the price. But, if their transaxles are $12-15K, I'd imagine the chassis is all that and more. But...it's considerably different than Dave's. It appears that they are retaining the Bug central tunnel and pans...which means that there must be a title or MCO along with it, which makes registration a whole lot easier. A phone call or email would tell the tale.

I did notice the central tunnel, but I hadn't thought of the titling aspects of it. You're probably right.

I would write to them, but it'll just make me want something else that I can't buy at the moment.
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Heres another one made in the UK

http://www.red9design.co.uk/wishbones.htm

2,012.10 USD
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Old 08-24-2009, 06:32 AM
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I think were all prety much set on the bolt on package for the beetle pan. But for those of you that are looking at the M2 front end, here is the data sheet that was sent to me via the MFG.

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I was looking over the front suspension of the Fiero, and it also might work.

Link to photo.
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