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Old 08-09-2011, 12:18 PM
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Default watercooled VW gti engine in a Sterling

is it possible (difficult) to put in a vw gti (1800 cc) (watercooled) engine in a nova ????
my garagist says : not done!!!!
no place for it......

what are your experiences ????
tips, pic's (other watercooled engines also....)
????

i'am sorry if my english is not so good, but i'am trying.....
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Old 08-09-2011, 12:49 PM
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Anything is possible if your pockets are deep enough. I'd imagine that the overall engine dimensions are pretty close to a Ford Pinto inline 4 which has been used successfully in the past; the issue would be how far the oil pan hangs down once the engine is mounted to the gearbox. If that setup works, then the only other issue is the radiator placement, covered elsewhere in these forums.
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Old 08-09-2011, 01:08 PM
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You should tell your garage mechanic that he needs to 1) get a better imagination and 2) learn how to be creative. Shame on him.

Yes, I think the VW 1800 inline engine can work quite well in these cars.

Rick is right that you need to confirm that the oil pan is not too low. The other area where clearance might be a problem is at the top, back corner of the engine. I have not tried the VW Rabbit/Golf/GTI engine, but I DID try the 2.2 liter Dodge engine, which is also an inline 4-cylinder. This engine had good ground clearance, but the top, back corner of the engine was a little high. I had to cut out a little of the top deck of the car (not the back of the body, just the "deck" area).

Ironically, I later switched to a V6 engine which actually fit better. The engine is bigger overall, but it is not as long (because it is only 3 cylinders long instead of 4 if you think about it.)

All in all, the GTI engine should be a good one for these cars. It is also not terribly expensive if you can do the work yourself. If, however, you need a michanic to do it (because of skill or time), then it will get expensive VERY quickly.

The conversion that I want to see is a VW TDI in a Sterling. It would have incredible torque and would probably return about 75 MPG. Those are very heavy engines, though.
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What transmission or transaxle are you planning to bolt the engine too. That will have an impact on how difficult the swap will be. Weight of the engine and how low the engine sits in the engine bay should be considered also. The lighter and lower the better. Cooling will be an issue also like Rick mentioned.
Then the fuel system will have to be addressed. Is it fuel injected?? If it is then you'll have to install a fuel system that will work with it.

And if the car is heavier and faster you might want to upgrade the brakes to something better.

Just a few things to think about before you go for it.


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Old 08-09-2011, 03:14 PM
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The older GTI engines (pre '86) would make an interesting conversion. Simple CIS fuel injection and very little wiring outside of the basic computer brain. Swap a carburetor on there and you wouldn't even have to worry about that. Reliable and bulletproof... I'll have to measure the 1.7 block in my '85 to see what the physical dimensions are!
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Old 08-09-2011, 03:36 PM
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Has anyone used a VW Waterboxer engine?
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Old 08-09-2011, 04:40 PM
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Has anyone used a VW Waterboxer engine?
Not so much since their power output is about on par with a well built aircooled.
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